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Question for all the techies here if these rule changes come to pass how will it affect the internet speed here in Britain?

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Littlejohn's brain wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40494909

Question for all the techies here if these rule changes come to pass how will it affect the internet speed here in Britain?



Uncle Rupert (of the Skynets), Auntie Dido (of the TalkTalks), Uncle Richard (Probably not a real Virgin) and their ilk will be able to implement QoS (Quality of service).

Used right, this is a good thing, enabling live stuff like voice and video calls to cut in front of static stuff like document downloads.
This is a "Neutral" usage where traffic is prioritised by type, and already exists.

Non Neutral usage would boost one provider's content and potentially slow other provider's content making it less attractive.
This is a bad thing because most Internet Service Providers are selling "Quad play" solutions, where you get Internet, Telephone, Television and a Netflix type subscription.

So the technical guys at Sky might get a directive saying - Check the source IP addresses for streaming video, and stick it on the slow train unless it's one of ours.
It would be relatively simple to infer that this was happening, but extremely difficult to produce concrete evidence.
ie A monopolist's wet dream and a customer's nightmare.


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Bones McCoy wrote:
Littlejohn's brain wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40494909

Question for all the techies here if these rule changes come to pass how will it affect the internet speed here in Britain?



Uncle Rupert (of the Skynets), Auntie Dido (of the TalkTalks), Uncle Richard (Probably not a real Virgin) and their ilk will be able to implement QoS (Quality of service).

Used right, this is a good thing, enabling live stuff like voice and video calls to cut in front of static stuff like document downloads.
This is a "Neutral" usage where traffic is prioritised by type, and already exists.

Non Neutral usage would boost one provider's content and potentially slow other provider's content making it less attractive.
This is a bad thing because most Internet Service Providers are selling "Quad play" solutions, where you get Internet, Telephone, Television and a Netflix type subscription.

So the technical guys at Sky might get a directive saying - Check the source IP addresses for streaming video, and stick it on the slow train unless it's one of ours.
It would be relatively simple to infer that this was happening, but extremely difficult to produce concrete evidence.
ie A monopolist's wet dream and a customer's nightmare.


So the internet will from now on be much slower?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:43 pm 
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Littlejohn's brain wrote:
Bones McCoy wrote:
Littlejohn's brain wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40494909

Question for all the techies here if these rule changes come to pass how will it affect the internet speed here in Britain?



Uncle Rupert (of the Skynets), Auntie Dido (of the TalkTalks), Uncle Richard (Probably not a real Virgin) and their ilk will be able to implement QoS (Quality of service).

Used right, this is a good thing, enabling live stuff like voice and video calls to cut in front of static stuff like document downloads.
This is a "Neutral" usage where traffic is prioritised by type, and already exists.

Non Neutral usage would boost one provider's content and potentially slow other provider's content making it less attractive.
This is a bad thing because most Internet Service Providers are selling "Quad play" solutions, where you get Internet, Telephone, Television and a Netflix type subscription.

So the technical guys at Sky might get a directive saying - Check the source IP addresses for streaming video, and stick it on the slow train unless it's one of ours.
It would be relatively simple to infer that this was happening, but extremely difficult to produce concrete evidence.
ie A monopolist's wet dream and a customer's nightmare.


So the internet will from now on be much slower?


On the 12th, yes.

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