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Re: Post-Labour Politics; the death of a party.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:39 pm 
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No one in this thread could have predicted an early election in which the Tories, UKIP, Lib Dems all fielded leaders who performed worse then Corbyn. And the Tories and Labour were back on the map in Scotland.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:43 pm 
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Sturgeon performed worse than Corbyn too. I wonder if one reason May went for the election was that the SNP had charged into the "Neverendum" trap.


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It was the manifesto wot done it.

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Abolishing tuition fees is double bubble as it appeals to parents of future students. Labour needs to put some flesh on its national education service and the guarantee of an apprenticeship. That's easier said than done but its a bold policy and that will strike a chord.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:56 am 
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
It was the manifesto wot done it.


Amusing now to recall the Tories enjoyment of the leaked Labour manifesto.


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Yeah it is the point in which the polls seemed to drop.

Gave Labour a week of coverage unchallenged, it probably led to the shit hawk of a document that the Tory manifesto was. Labour's response to May's speech the day after the terrorist attack in London was brave and bold and probably something Labour would have refrained from under Miliband. But by golly it worked.


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The leaked manifesto, and the Tories' reaction to it was so standard, so facile - "Ha ha h...oh, um". They'd been set on autopilot sneer mode that they took it for granted, so when it started to register well with voters, they didn't know how to respond.

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The Tories thought that could keep quiet and wait for Labour to implode. When we didn't they had no Plan B apart from fighting thirty year-old battles.

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Re the thread title... are we witnessing the death of the party or is it just evolving?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:45 am 
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Daley Mayle wrote:
Re the thread title... are we witnessing the death of the party or is it just evolving?


Careful now, you'll alienate the DUP - and you would't like them when they're angry.


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