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Re: Is It Wrong to Still Hate Thatcher?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:32 pm 
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bluebellnutter wrote:
That poll reckons Gordon Brown is a worse PM than Anthony "Suez" Eden.

Hmm.


Poor old Gordon did most of his good work at number 11.
His misfortune is that Tony didn't chuck him the Keys to number 10, until the chip-pan caught fire.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:09 am 
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Thatcher pushed for breakup of welfare state despite NHS pledge
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Margaret Thatcher secretly tried to press ahead with a politically toxic plan to dismantle the welfare state even after a "cabinet riot" and her famous declaration that the "NHS is safe with us", newly released Treasury documents show.

The plan commissioned by Thatcher and her chancellor Sir Geoffrey Howe included proposals to charge for state schooling, introduce compulsory private health insurance and a system of private medical facilities that "would, of course, mean the end of the National Health Service."


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'Look after the Daily Mail': Thatcher's media tactic for 1987 election
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Margaret Thatcher's press secretary advised the then prime minister that her first media priority for the 1987 general election campaign was to "look after the Daily Mail", the latest release of her private papers show.

The set of files from the Margaret Thatcher Foundation reveal that Sir Bernard Ingham, nominally a civil servant rather than a Conservative party employee, gave her advice despite neutrality rules that banned him from doing so.

In a note to the prime minister on "how to play the media over the next couple of weeks" before the campaign, he wrote: "You need to look after the Daily Mail (David English wants to interview you – and would like to be first to do so after you have declared an election)." English was the paper's editor at the time.

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Margaret Thatcher was briefed by civil servants when she was prime minister that punk was "the most extreme form of 'pop' rebellion" and had peaked under the previous Labour government, newly released private papers reveal.

Thatcher was also told before a 1987 interview with the teenage pop magazine Smash Hits that punk was "a very basic musical style featuring a strange bunch of anti-establishment acts, the most famous of which were the Sex Pistols, with songs such as God Save the Queen and Anarchy in the UK".

Her official briefing paper, released by the Margaret Thatcher Foundation, added that punk was popular for a while but died out after the Sex Pistols split up in 1978, to be replaced "by the current technological musical era featuring computers, synthesisers and videos".

The Downing Street press office briefing for the interview in February 1987 included the ominous warning: "You may not enjoy this interview. Mr Hibbert (Smash Hits’ deputy editor) may ask superficial questions which betray a lack of understanding. The challenge of the interview will be for you to demonstrate that just because you are not part of the pop scene, you are still in touch with youngsters and understand their needs."


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:08 am 
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Can imagine Thatcher in 1972 or so asking someone "what's this Beatlemania thing I keep hearing about?"

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D.C. Harrison wrote:
Can imagine Thatcher in 1972 or so asking someone "what's this Beatlemania thing I keep hearing about?"

More like "What's this rock n roll thing, and whose this Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly?"

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Before a speech with a dead parrot reference, Thatch asked if this Monty Python chap one of us. I'm not bothered about PMs having their finger on the pulse but like Farage Thatcher didn't have any cultural horizons and that does bother me in a politician.


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She was just a kind of inhuman zombie really.

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Before a speech with a dead parrot reference, Thatch asked if this Monty Python chap one of us. I'm not bothered about PMs having their finger on the pulse but like Farage Thatcher didn't have any cultural horizons and that does bother me in a politician.


It's just showing a complete disconnect from the world in which they live and the people who they govern. You don't expect them to know the latest plot twists in Eastenders but you expect them to have heard of the Queen Vic.

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I’ve got a lot of time for people who have better things to do than watch crap tv.

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Ministers didn't need to with the weekly Malcolm Tucker zeitgeist tape.


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'Look after the Daily Mail': Thatcher's media tactic for 1987 election
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Margaret Thatcher's press secretary advised the then prime minister that her first media priority for the 1987 general election campaign was to "look after the Daily Mail", the latest release of her private papers show.

The set of files from the Margaret Thatcher Foundation reveal that Sir Bernard Ingham, nominally a civil servant rather than a Conservative party employee, gave her advice despite neutrality rules that banned him from doing so.

In a note to the prime minister on "how to play the media over the next couple of weeks" before the campaign, he wrote: "You need to look after the Daily Mail (David English wants to interview you – and would like to be first to do so after you have declared an election)." English was the paper's editor at the time.

Plus (on a somewhat lighter note):
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Margaret Thatcher was briefed by civil servants when she was prime minister that punk was "the most extreme form of 'pop' rebellion" and had peaked under the previous Labour government, newly released private papers reveal.

Thatcher was also told before a 1987 interview with the teenage pop magazine Smash Hits that punk was "a very basic musical style featuring a strange bunch of anti-establishment acts, the most famous of which were the Sex Pistols, with songs such as God Save the Queen and Anarchy in the UK".

Her official briefing paper, released by the Margaret Thatcher Foundation, added that punk was popular for a while but died out after the Sex Pistols split up in 1978, to be replaced "by the current technological musical era featuring computers, synthesisers and videos".

The Downing Street press office briefing for the interview in February 1987 included the ominous warning: "You may not enjoy this interview. Mr Hibbert (Smash Hits’ deputy editor) may ask superficial questions which betray a lack of understanding. The challenge of the interview will be for you to demonstrate that just because you are not part of the pop scene, you are still in touch with youngsters and understand their needs."


She down wit da yoot - Irie!!


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