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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:57 pm 
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That some of the deals are big, and some of them are small? What's he expecting a trade deal with New Zealand to add?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:17 pm 
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Some of these deals are small. But the ones with New Zealand are far away.

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OMG, the Father Ted Theory of Perspective has been challenged. I just felt a rip in the whole time/space continuum.


FT(D rev.)ToP v. 2

Father David: …OK, one last time. These EU deals only look big because they are closer to us… but the ones out there only look small because they are far, far away. Small… far away… do you understand? Bring them closer and you'll see... ah... oh... bollocks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:57 am 
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Brexit WILL happen and Government prepared for no transitional deal' Chris Grayling says


He doth protest too much, Methinks. You'd almost think that Brexiters are having second thoughts.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/829852 ... ay-cabinet

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My grandfather gave his life in the war so that I could present his sacrifice as an alternative to a rational argument,” said Brexit supporter Brian First.

“I won’t let his sacrifice be in vain!”


http://newsthump.com/2017/07/18/britain ... rrassment/

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:05 am 
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Mr Grayling calmly responded: “All of this will depend on the position of the European Union and how the negotiations go.

“It is perfectly plausible that we could leave without a transitional arrangement, if the agreements were in place for future trade, if the agreements were in place for the kind of partnerships we will have in the future.”

That is a deal you plonker. Or does he mean a verbal agreement from Bernier that the UK can have something like Canada constitutes as a basis to start negotiations with other countries?

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My grandfather gave his life in the war so that I could present his sacrifice as an alternative to a rational argument,” said Brexit supporter Brian First.

“I won’t let his sacrifice be in vain!”


http://newsthump.com/2017/07/18/britain ... rrassment/


Brian First. Excellent.

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I'm trying to work out which Tory is between Davis and Gove in that cartoon... oh, it's Hammond, isn't it?


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bluebellnutter wrote:
Arnold wrote:
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My grandfather gave his life in the war so that I could present his sacrifice as an alternative to a rational argument,” said Brexit supporter Brian First.

“I won’t let his sacrifice be in vain!”


http://newsthump.com/2017/07/18/britain ... rrassment/


Brian First. Excellent.

I wish I'd coined it.

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What on earth does "90% of EU trade deals" mean?

Fuck knows or the 2% export figure.



And how is our failure to take advantage of EU trade deals the fault of the EU?


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Is this the right thread to discuss the Corbynistas that are labouring under the illusion that the sainted Jeremy is somehow pushing for a soft brexit, rather than being in lockstep with May?


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I'm assuming Corbyn'll go with the young crowds and support softer Brexit.

It's actually working OK, having the "Blairite traitors" pushing for the Single Market. It's putting their discontent to good use.


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The divisions aren't on straight left-right lines or more importantly a choice between members and voters. The survey on the Labour generally thread shows how deeply unpopular Brexit is with the membership. And just as unpopular with Labour voters.


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'City will have to launch Brexit plans if there is no transitional deal'
FCA chief warns that firms will have to take action at end of year, as Wall Street bank Citi is tipped to announce Frankfurt move


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -frankfurt

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Matthew Parris has ventured forth into the lions den to reason with the inhabitants

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/dea ... r-mistake/

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