It is currently Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:02 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8305 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 550, 551, 552, 553, 554  Next

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Sponsor

Sponsor
 

Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:53 pm 
Online

Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:01 pm
Posts: 4485
Location: Handforth, Cheshire, just half a mile across the border with fantastic Greater Manchester
What Matto said +1

The leadership contest will be a massive fight, anyone think a Tory remainer dares have a go? Whatever happens we will get a more hardline Brexit merchant, presumably either Johnson or Mogg, who will go into full on "no deal" mode.

_________________
Were going to hell in a handcart, you couldn't make it up!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:07 am
Posts: 16503
Location: Brigadoon
A Remainer could stand on the basis of "Grow the fuck up, withdraw Article 50 and sort our own issues out before we go back into it". It might not work within the party but the electorate might think "yeah, actually, they have a point, why are they fucking about some more?"

_________________
"They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say...let 'em crash."
- "Counter Point", Airplane! (1980)

Things can only get better.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:04 pm
Posts: 17809
The Tories are defending 67 seats with less than 5% swing and 44 under 3%. Most of them are not going to back Mogg for leader.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:50 pm 
Online

Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:01 pm
Posts: 4485
Location: Handforth, Cheshire, just half a mile across the border with fantastic Greater Manchester
Most sensible people, Tory or otherwise, wouldn't want Mogg as leader, the thing is though, the Tories have retreated into their core support, which means loons, and they will lap him up.

_________________
Were going to hell in a handcart, you couldn't make it up!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:04 pm
Posts: 17809
I suppose so 316 minus 67 is still a lot of loons. I'll go to the Tory thread for some new polling on May's alternatives.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:33 pm
Posts: 22907
Location: South Wales
I'm not sure those marginals are going to fancy PM Jez either.

See how the Tories, despite the farce, are holding on to their 40% support.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:23 pm
Posts: 16884
Location: Liverpool
Was watching a thing on the Russian revolution last night. Thing that struck me was that to get into power you don't have to be the most popular or the most credible, or even have a plan. You just have to appear to be the least worst option.

_________________
"It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail." - Gore Vidal.

"I proved that you're wrong. And if you're wrong, I'm right." - Aaron Eckhart.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:33 pm
Posts: 22907
Location: South Wales
Nowadays, John Redwood would have been very competitive v Major. In those days, the moderate MPs could shut down any loon candidate. Now, there's no rump of moderates, and a loon has only to make the run off, where the Brexit pensioner members take over.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:33 pm
Posts: 22907
Location: South Wales
Jez and Starmer aren't exactly busting their guts to force the release of these likely very damning assessments of Brexit, are they?

Jez doesn't give a fuck, but Starmer is supposed to be a smart lawyerly operator. Shouldn't he be all over this?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:04 pm
Posts: 17809
Andy McDandy wrote:
Was watching a thing on the Russian revolution last night. Thing that struck me was that to get into power you don't have to be the most popular or the most credible, or even have a plan. You just have to appear to be the least worst option.


That didn't pass me by either any old fool in a Lenin cap at the right time in the right place can hit the jackpot. I am becoming concerned that I keep seeing Brexit comparisons in programmes about historical tragedies. Or maybe I'm watching a lot to find a pattern of insanity at the top throughout the ages.

I liked Lenin's fake news move; tell the crowds the government has fallen before you've deposed them.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:07 pm
Posts: 5176
Andy McDandy wrote:
Was watching a thing on the Russian revolution last night. Thing that struck me was that to get into power you don't have to be the most popular or the most credible, or even have a plan. You just have to appear to be the least worst option.


That suggests most people had credible options at all.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:45 am
Posts: 15411
Location: The woods outside the big society
Quote:
SLATUKIP‏ @SLATUKIP

BBC News just now. Corbyn has said "If the referendum was today he would still vote remain".
6:53 am - 12 Oct 2017

_________________
Mailwatch. Love us or leave us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:07 am
Posts: 16503
Location: Brigadoon
He also said he wouldn't back a second referendum. So he can wave goodbye to those Remainer votes.

_________________
"They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say...let 'em crash."
- "Counter Point", Airplane! (1980)

Things can only get better.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:04 pm
Posts: 17809
He could always back a first referendum on the real deal. Calling for another go straight after the first referendum never looked politically tenable and you usually get the same answer unless the dust has settled and the landscape changed.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:33 pm
Posts: 22907
Location: South Wales
I'm not too fussed with what he's said here. Not enough people realize it's going to be shit yet.

But they do need to be really hitting at getting those assessments and the Article 50 legal advice released. Starmer could be doing more there.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8305 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 550, 551, 552, 553, 554  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Fatal: ./cache/ is NOT writable.