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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:53 am 
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I only hope if (when) things do start going wrong for Corbyn those same people grasp the nettle and swallow their pride, but I fear that may be too much to ask. It seems too much like a religion for people to think practically and objectively about.

"What, Corbyn is tanking in the polls? Well the pollsters are all Tories anyway, Corbyn must be doing well because all my friends say they like him."

Equally so, will others rally round or stand back and crow "told you so"?

It works both ways, that game.


Much as it may surprise you, I absolutely agree. Pull together, but if it is clearly going wrong be prepared to pull the other way just as hard.

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I'm just a bit worried that if JC wins the leadership outright what mikey mikey will do with all that free time he'll now have.

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Daley Mayle wrote:
I'm just a bit worried that if JC wins the leadership outright what mikey mikey will do with all that free time he'll now have.


I expect he'll be out on the pavement doing voter ID, delivering leaflets and running street stalls.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:39 am 
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bluebellnutter wrote:
I only hope if (when) things do start going wrong for Corbyn those same people grasp the nettle and swallow their pride, but I fear that may be too much to ask. It seems too much like a religion for people to think practically and objectively about.

"What, Corbyn is tanking in the polls? Well the pollsters are all Tories anyway, Corbyn must be doing well because all my friends say they like him."


You're making an assumption his support base is made up of fundamentalist Trots. If he messes up he goes.


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That's not what the Corbyn fanatics amongst my members are telling me. A local CLP has Corbynites who are planning a takeover - they won't manage it as they've never been effective before and won't be now. I'm being told that if I don't support Corbyn someone will stand against me. It's all pretty ugly.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:12 am 
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Daley Mayle wrote:
I'm just a bit worried that if JC wins the leadership outright what mikey mikey will do with all that free time he'll now have.


I expect he'll be out on the pavement doing voter ID, delivering leaflets and running street stalls.


Yeah there are a lot of marginal seats we need to win in Italy.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:33 am 
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Delighted for Tom. The high calibre of the deputy leadership contenders bodes well for the future.


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Like very much that he's acknowledging unions early on in his acceptance speech.

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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
That's not what the Corbyn fanatics amongst my members are telling me. A local CLP has Corbynites who are planning a takeover - they won't manage it as they've never been effective before and won't be now. I'm being told that if I don't support Corbyn someone will stand against me. It's all pretty ugly.


I would like to hope that that is all bluster but the mood in the Caledonian wastes doesn't bode well with the winners crowing and believing that they have a sweeping mandate to do as they will.

Disunity per se doesn't preclude Labour from returning to office - look at the tories - but the party will be a damned sight more effective it is pulling together.

That might sound a little simplistic, naive even, but today is when the really hard work begins.

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Delighted for Tom. The high calibre of the deputy leadership contenders bodes well for the future.


It's a bit worrying though that they all wanted to be Deputy Leader and not the actual Leader though, isn't it?

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Dear Unite

Please get a different general secretary one who isn't a complete pillock

Yours LJB

https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/ ... 8393338880

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Delighted for Tom. The high calibre of the deputy leadership contenders bodes well for the future.


It's a bit worrying though that they all wanted to be Deputy Leader and not the actual Leader though, isn't it?


Its more of a manager's job than a leader's. Unlike Burnham and Cooper the candidates knew their limitations.


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Please get a different general secretary one who isn't a complete pillock

Yours LJB

https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/ ... 8393338880


You know that's an attempt at satire and that McCluskey hasn't actually said any of that, right?

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new puritan wrote:
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Please get a different general secretary one who isn't a complete pillock

Yours LJB

https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/ ... 8393338880


You know that's an attempt at satire and that McCluskey hasn't actually said any of that, right?


But Corbyn does ride his bike in a completely different way to Cameron. That's why he strikes a chord.


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True it was Unite should however still get a new general secretary one who isn't a pillock

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