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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:42 pm 
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When do the Tories bring up Press TV?

Lib Dems'll bring it up every time anybody mentions "homophobic" Tim Farron.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:46 pm 
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Devastating, but SO accurate :

https://capx.co/where-does-corbyn-leave-centre-left-voters/

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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:26 pm 
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I wouldn't say that Corbyn is as left wing as he's portrayed in the media, but he is just a useless, utterly inept leader. Under a charismatic leader who looked the part, some of his policies could appeal to sections of the electorate.

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Problem for lots of people is that Corbyn never recanted his Bennite stuff. Not that he'd be able to get that stuff through anyway, but he'll never convince as "just a social democrat" because he isn't. Which makes his "straight talking" stuff look silly.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:46 am 
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Richard Angell has some smart sensible advice for Labour, which will probably end up getting ignored.

http://labourlist.org/2017/04/progress- ... ion-votes/

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Theresa May’s decision to break yet another promise and force Britain into a general election is less about bringing forward the 2020 vote and more about delaying the first post-Brexit poll.

She knows she needs time at the other end of the final Brexit outcome to implement the transition deals and re-stabilise the economy. Why? Because she cannot meet the high expectations of the UKIP-lite tendency in her party and will not be able to get a deal that does not harm working people in Britain.

Labour must use this election not to “change the question” but to make that point. Yes, May calls the election from a polling advantage – both the party and her personally are ahead in the polls – but on policy, it is from a point of weakness. The country needs an opposition to point this out and a plan about what could reasonably done instead. The leadership must make this their focus, and ensure it does not slip into hard-Brexit and give May a blank cheque. She certainly does not deserve one.

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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:55 am 
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Well that's just effing marvellous

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/el ... tory-means

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The result does however increase the chances that Jeremy Corbyn will be able to stay on after a defeat. Removing Corbyn would mean handing control back to Tom Watson, with whom McCluskey's relations are now at an all time low. “I think there’s a feeling of: you came for me, you bastard, now I’m coming for you,” a trade union official says. That means that the chances that Corbyn will be able to weather a defeat on 8 June – provided Labour retain close to what one figure dubbed the “magic number” of 200 seats – have now considerably increased.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:14 pm 
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According to George Eaton Corbyn plan's to stay on post election, a la la Kinnock 87.

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Retaining two hundred MP's seems massively optimistic to me. And since when did such a low number equate to some benchmark of respectability?


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Another "symbolic" vote of no confidence then.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
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Kinnock gained seats.

200 would mean Corbyn had lost more seats than Miliband.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
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There's always some more rubbish Corbyn's team said that you didn't know, isnt there?

https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-a ... PtX92nyvIU

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STATE assets sold off on the cheap by Tories could be renationalised “without compensation,” Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign said at the weekend.
The warning to big business profiteers came as the leftwinger’s economic plan was endorsed by 41 leading economists, including former Bank of England monetary policy committee member David Blanchflower.


David Blanchflower wasn't endorsing this!


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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:44 pm 
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Another "symbolic" vote of no confidence then.

At which point do the NEC quietly step in and say "Sorry Jeremy, but enough is enough"?

The McDonnell amendment could be nullified by inserting a simple requirement that any leader who loses a PLP confidence vote has to seek the necessary number of MP nominations as any other candidate. It still boggles the mind that no such rule already existed.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:13 pm 
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Absolutely.

But members.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Absolutely.

But members.


My thoughts exactly. I assume the NEC could say "Okay Jeremy, you've had your fun but now it's time to go for the good of the party."

But I also assume the backlash from the members would be horrific and it could set a precedent.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:30 pm 
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Absolutely.

But members.


My thoughts exactly. I assume the NEC could say "Okay Jeremy, you've had your fun but now it's time to go for the good of the party."

But I also assume the backlash from the members would be horrific and it could set a precedent.


Yes because two thirds of the members place their own ideological purity over that of winning an election.

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